Man City are champions, Bundesliga title race and Premier League relegation | Tifo Football Podcast

50 comentarios en «Man City are champions, Bundesliga title race and Premier League relegation | Tifo Football Podcast»

1. The people who complain about the humour in this podcast are the kind of people I want to avoid like the plague.

2. Nah that’s cap, the last Jedi is one of the worst films I’ve ever seen

3. Tried listening again today… Didn't make it to the 2 minute mark. How could something so beautiful have turned into something like this?

4. shrek

5. Dumb and Dumber is a good movie. Shrek is an absolute masterpiece. Shrek has no right to be as good as it is and the fact that Shrek 2 is just as good (if not better) is astounding. I am sorry but there are levels to this.

6. Please please please don’t end this style of podcast. It’s so much fun every week

7. Just in case you feel the introduction and banter in the first few minutes is charming, its not. Its crap. So, it will be useful and possibly save lot of football lovers if you guys cup the crap and get talking about the football. Thanks.

8. Don’t listen to these hanky panky nonsense peddlers, this podcast is great because of the silliness not the footballing insight. BRING IT BACK

9. I love the mix of your silliness and analysis so screw you non silliness comments…and a faster smaller bird would end up just eating the ring and poppin a poo somewhere for someone to get the ring and go mental

10. Jon’s opinions on LOTR are as informed as his opinions on football and you can make of that what you will

11. Come for the football, stay for the bath tub talk

12. This podcast is unlistenable

13. 1:14:16 he might have fooled Joe and John but we all know Salad Fingers when we hear him

14. this is awful.

15. Gollum is a hobbit and though he does get corrupted by the ring it’s noted that he was able to hold out a remarkably long time compared to a human, as does frodo

16. oh no please dont talk about the nba, that was embarrassing

17. if the city owners did break FFP rules, but that didnt improve the team on the pitch at all, why did they bother? were they just so inept that they spent all that extra money for no benefit? I think the real benefit was getting to a level where they could attract pep, who wouldnt have gone there if they werent already looking like the best team in the league

18. Never end the pod!
    My favorite footy pod!

19. I’d pay money to see a final episode where the introductory shitehousery is genuinely just the whole podcast

20. At the very least you take an eagle most of the way 😂 like there is a mythical creature Olympics to know which is faster.

21. I enjoy the elements of banter but I get the sense that Joe Devine is a prime example of white privilege, he consistently provides the bare minimum in terms of pre-contextual knowledge. Consistently interupping co-workers making intelligent points with trivial humour. Of course podcasts need timely humour, but what I feel Joe provides is self indulgent playground humour.

22. As someone who lived in Augsburg for a little while i take solace in that i am not the only one who is unable to pronounce it correctly. but i suppose you guys would be able to if you had lived there

23. These guys were on one this week….

24. I love this podcast the way it is

25. can y’all do a new podcast, that is just the banter from the intro, but 30 minutes

26. My biggest take away from this episode is that JJ Bull would quite like someone to bathe with him.

27. Surely this content cannot be allowed to end!… a bit like that third Lord of the Rings film, which just had about 10 different endings.

28. wow the guy with the glasses take on LoTR is just so ignorant in regards to all fiction. hes just lashing out at this point. Let him talk about football please hes much better at that

29. Don't stop this podcast.

30. John's Gandalf is more David Attenborough and JJ's Gollum is definitely Donald Duck

31. Dumb & Dumber = highly intelligent satire for adults, Shrek = kid's cartoon

32. This was the most tifo tifo have ever tifo'd

33. I miss Alex and Sebb

34. Shrek is much better

35. SHREK CLEARS ☝️😤

36. Shrek clears Dumb and Dumber

37. Please can you get an actual Lord of the Rings expert on the show? Joe seems to be making the most sense, which is unusual, but generally, everything said about Lord of the Rings is like 60% accurate.

38. Allen “Iversen” is a great tifo moment

39. How dare you Joe Devine, reading out the 1% of comments that are happy you are ending. Fake news.

40. Release that music at the end.

41. I love this show, the antics and tangents just make it so good.

    Re: City, FFP, fairness etc. I feel like the notion that City cheated to win is wrong headed.

    As Jon pointed out, FFP was more intended to stop over-enthusiastic chairmen from loading their club with debt in search of success and greater wealth, resulting in clubs going into administration – something that was all too serious a risk, as in the past 20 years Derby (twice),. Portsmouth (twice), Southampton, Leeds Utd, Wimbledon, Ipswich – have gone into administration and the likes of City were in trouble prior to the Qatari ownership and Everton look hella precarious now.

    It was never about curtailing the spending of successful, top clubs as this is (again as Jon says) fundamentally against what the Premier League stands for.

    In truth, football has never been 'fair' – clubs with bigger or cannier backers, from bigger cities (or managing to monopolise their city/region*) have always been able to out bid smaller teams for players, thus attracting more fans, more gate receipts to be invested in players etc and the whole thing feeds back to forever widen the gap between rich and poor.

    Thing is – that's capitalism. A free market** in the name of competition but really chasing profit will almost always result in a monopoly or cartel where only a handful of clubs can succeed. The recent trend to oligarch/state investment is just the final, most obvious iteration of that.

    Did City buy success? Yes, they did. But so, in their way did Chelsea in the 00s, Man Utd in the 90s, Milan in the 80s/90s, Real Madrid since forever etc.

    City are also probably the most complete, hilariously dominant team I've ever seen and can only be taken out over a full season by an amazing team at peak performance (Liverpool 19-20). They're getting increasingly resistant to cup upsets as well. That performance in the 2nd leg against Madrid was awe inspiring. The consistency of signings, smartness of coaching etc since Guardiola & co were brought in is of the very highest level. I am impressed – and given my side in England is Manchester United, that pains me to admit, but it's true.

    Does the fact that this only came about because they had huge investment cheapen that?

    For a start, the 'only' is debatable, cause all the money in the world doesn't make a difference if the coaching, support facilities etc. and a consistent approach aren't there and while sure, money helps with all of that, it doesn't guarantee it, as a quick look at Manchester United over the last decade, Chelsea right or even Everton compared to say Brentford & Brighton.

    Secondly, if City had been a long term top team and hadn't gone from yoyo club in the late 90s to mid table in the mid 00s, to not finishing below 5th since 2010 and 7 titles in 11 years almost overnight on the Qatari investment, the furore would be exponentially less – if it was United, or Liverpool or Arsenal showing this level of dominance, there would be the usual griping but it wouldn't be so vehement. We're annoyed at the speed it happened and that we still don't see City as a 'proper' top team.

    So, no… I don't think that (in my eyes near certainty) that City evaded the FFP rules really cheapens it. Hell, the same rules simply didn't exist when Man Utd or Liverpool were dominant for a start and the case is so grey (as it covers a breach that was never anticipated when the rules were conceived, in that a state owner can fund their team through arms length companies without it being direct owner investment) that it's kind of been thrown out alreqady (twice? I forget.)

    Now,. I do genuinely believe football should be fairer and the light & money should be shared more generously down the pyramid (because the top of the game only exists because all the layers below it do) but to say this City team aren't – from a purely footballing sense, absolutely astonishing, is little but myopic bitterness.

    * Tangent – look at Scotland where Rangers & Celtic should be just 2 of 4+ teams in Glasgow (depending where you draw the line of 'Glasgow') but are between them more popular than the whole rest of Scottish football on account of leveraging sectarian divides countrywide since their founding, leading to just such a feedback loop of exponentially greater support, income and success, to the point where they've been using that influence together to hold down the concept of genuine competition or a broadly healthier league for over 100 years. The 'old firm' doesn't denote a rivalry, but a partnership.

    ** a genuinely free market is impossible as consumers never have fully free choice or information, there are always barriers to entry etc. so the theory collapses before it ever leaves thought experiment mode.

42. I like Jon and will watch his podcast but please don't end this one! It's too good!

43. Is JJ okay? He sounds depressed or something…

44. The Dog has spoken!!! John McKenzie’s take on the Man City charges is spot on, couldn’t agree more that there is a bigger problem than just one club cheating.

45. I don't know how are you going to end the greatest podcast ever. I hope you do another one even if it doesn't have anything to do with football.

46. 100% Shrek over dumb and dumber. I agree with Joe. Really gonna miss this podcast. Definitely the best mainstream football podcast out there. Quickly Kevin is the only one that beats it.

47. Seriously, just don't cancel the podcast….I'm brandishing a petition, don't make me use it!

48. Heres the reason why "its just a made up story" is an awful argument. Think about it, its a made up story, they couldve had the society of the ring mount the eagles and fly to the volcano, but guess what? Its a made up story! Fiction cant just end like that. What wouldve happened is: eagles get attacked and downed, the group is forced to split up as they fall far apart and the story goes on the SAME way. Its the same book except for maybe a couple chapters, with the same ending.

49. Do this format when the next season starts up again please. This makes the season so much more fun.

50. Dumb and dumber is bar far the superior movie

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